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Details From KORD - Chicago O'Hare Intl
To LHBP - Budapest Ferenc Liszt Intl
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Stats Distance 4,390 nm / 8,130 km
Max Altitude 35,000 ft / 10,668 m
Waypoints 65
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Using NAT tracks from 23/8/2019 Basic altitude profile: - Ascent Rate: 2500ft/min - Ascent Speed: 250kts - Cruise Altitude: 35000ft - Cruise Speed: 420kts - Descent Rate: 1500ft/min - Descent Speed: 250kts Options: - Use NATs: yes - Use PACOTS: yes - Use low airways: yes - Use high airways: yes

Route

KORD PMM J547 FNT Q824 HOCKE Q923 YVO J545 MT J551 YWK V39 YYR YR AR29 YMH PELTU RIKAL S SOVED 5600N0-1300W 5600N0-1200W 5600N0-1100W MIMKU N562 MAC UN562 SAB L983 CUTEL UL619 VALBO L619 SUTEB UL619 BUMIL UM748 HDO L858 KOMUR L620 KOPIT M748 ODNEM A4 TUTPI LHBP

ID Type Via Altitude (ft/m) Position (lat/lon) Dist (leg/tot) Name
O KORD APT - 0 / 0 41.97570 / -87.90640 - / 0 nm Chicago O'Hare Intl
• PMM VOR - 30,400 / 9,266 42.46600 / -86.10480 85 / 85 nm PULLMAN
• HASTE FIX J547 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 42.67100 / -85.16740 43 / 128 nm
• DEWIT FIX J547 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 42.80250 / -84.55000 28 / 156 nm
• FNT VOR J547 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 42.96680 / -83.74700 36 / 193 nm FLINT
• HOCKE FIX Q824 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 43.26210 / -82.71060 48 / 242 nm
• KARIT FIX Q923 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 43.72310 / -82.14440 37 / 279 nm
• DUTEL FIX Q923 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 44.66640 / -81.29640 67 / 346 nm
• YVO VOR Q923 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 48.17530 / -77.82030 255 / 602 nm VAL-D'OR
• MT NDB J545 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 49.79960 / -74.49550 163 / 765 nm CHIBOO CHIBOUGAMAU
• ILUGO FIX J551 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 50.32090 / -73.37970 53 / 818 nm
• YWK VOR J551 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.96010 / -66.85350 290 / 1108 nm WABUSH
• YYR VOR V39 (AWY-LO) 35,000 / 10,668 53.31970 / -60.29470 237 / 1345 nm GOOSE (GOOSE BAY)
• YR NDB - 35,000 / 10,668 53.33780 / -60.36580 2 / 1348 nm GOOSE GOOSE BAY
• YMH NDB AR29 (AWY-LO) 35,000 / 10,668 52.31460 / -55.83150 175 / 1524 nm MARYS HARBOUR
• PELTU FIX - 35,000 / 10,668 52.10000 / -55.16670 27 / 1551 nm
• RIKAL FIX - 35,000 / 10,668 51.80000 / -54.53330 29 / 1581 nm
• 53/50 LATLON S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 53.00000 / -50.00000 181 / 1762 nm
• 55/40 LATLON S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 55.00000 / -40.00000 372 / 2135 nm
• 56/30 LATLON S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -30.00000 345 / 2480 nm
• 56/20 LATLON S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -20.00000 335 / 2815 nm
• PIKIL FIX S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -15.00000 167 / 2983 nm
• SOVED FIX S (NAT) 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -14.00000 33 / 3017 nm
• 5600N0-1300W LATLON - 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -13.00000 33 / 3050 nm
• 5600N0-1200W LATLON - 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -12.00000 33 / 3084 nm
• 5600N0-1100W LATLON - 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -11.00000 33 / 3117 nm
• MIMKU FIX - 35,000 / 10,668 56.00000 / -10.00000 33 / 3151 nm
• DONIB FIX N562 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.71920 / -7.69556 79 / 3230 nm
• MAC VOR N562 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.43000 / -5.65041 71 / 3302 nm MACHRIHANISH
• SAB VOR UN562 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.90750 / -2.20634 120 / 3422 nm SAINT ABBS
• MADAD FIX L983 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.91310 / -1.73389 15 / 3438 nm
• GOMOT FIX L983 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.91940 / -0.54417 40 / 3478 nm
• CUTEL FIX L983 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.88580 / 2.37444 98 / 3576 nm
• AVRAL FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.50940 / 3.71639 50 / 3627 nm
• VALBO FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.12890 / 5.00000 49 / 3677 nm
• SUTEB FIX L619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 55.00000 / 5.41882 16 / 3693 nm
• ABLUN FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 54.85080 / 5.89509 18 / 3712 nm
• GOMKU FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 54.65690 / 6.50000 23 / 3736 nm
• DHE VOR UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 54.18570 / 7.91070 56 / 3792 nm HELGOLAND
• GOLEN FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 54.05970 / 8.32083 16 / 3809 nm
• LBV FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 53.65250 / 9.57944 50 / 3860 nm
• AMLUH FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 53.42900 / 10.32250 29 / 3889 nm
• BUMIL FIX UL619 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 53.12000 / 11.28610 39 / 3929 nm
• GURLO FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 53.05190 / 11.37360 5 / 3934 nm
• ERNUD FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.93390 / 11.52560 8 / 3943 nm
• SOGMA FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.63530 / 11.90530 22 / 3965 nm
• DEXUG FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.40040 / 12.26020 19 / 3985 nm
• SOBLU FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.39220 / 12.27280 0 / 3985 nm
• SUKIP FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.25890 / 12.47150 10 / 3996 nm
• ESIKA FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 52.12390 / 12.67140 10 / 4007 nm
• MOSEX FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.91920 / 12.97080 16 / 4024 nm
• BOLBO FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.79470 / 13.15110 10 / 4034 nm
• OLBIK FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.66250 / 13.34110 10 / 4044 nm
• OSKAN FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.46080 / 13.62770 16 / 4060 nm
• RENDO FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.27810 / 13.88470 14 / 4075 nm
• ESLOR FIX UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 51.06580 / 14.17940 16 / 4092 nm
• HDO VOR UM748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 50.92820 / 14.36880 10 / 4103 nm HERMSDORF
• KOMUR FIX L858 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 50.56240 / 14.58160 23 / 4126 nm
• KOPIT FIX L620 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 50.18820 / 15.15800 31 / 4158 nm
• DIXEP FIX M748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 49.88500 / 15.61600 25 / 4183 nm
• ABRAX FIX M748 (AWY-HI) 35,000 / 10,668 49.69770 / 15.89490 15 / 4199 nm
• BNO VOR M748 (AWY-HI) 31,100 / 9,479 49.15010 / 16.69260 45 / 4244 nm BRNO
• ODNEM FIX M748 (AWY-LO) 25,500 / 7,772 48.85320 / 17.16780 25 / 4270 nm
• TUTPI FIX A4 (AWY-LO) 23,000 / 7,010 48.71580 / 17.38610 11 / 4282 nm
O LHBP APT - 0 / 0 47.43690 / 19.25570 107 / 4389 nm Budapest Ferenc Liszt Intl

Altitude Profile

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Forecast for 2025-01-10 06:00 UTC. Updated 3 hours ago

Ground ~20,000 ft ~40,000 ft Winds

KORD

Details ICAO KORD (ORD)
Name Chicago O'Hare International
Region United States
Timezone America/Chicago (UTC-6.0)
Stats Elevation 680 ft / 207 m (AMSL)
Location 41.973400° -87.906600°
Runways 6
Magnetic Variation 4.150° W

METAR

KORD 100551Z 20011G18KT 10SM SCT250 M06/M11 A3006 RMK AO2 SLP189 T10611106 11044 21067 410171100 58015 $

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TAF

TAF KORD 100520Z 1006/1112 20010KT P6SM SCT060 BKN200 FM100900 21009KT P6SM SCT035 OVC060 FM101200 22008KT 1 1/2SM -SN BR BKN008 OVC012 FM101700 24007KT 2SM -SN BR OVC012 FM102000 28009KT P6SM -SN BKN015 OVC035 FM110000 29007KT P6SM -SN SCT020 BKN035

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Departure Runways

ID Width Length Bearing (true/mag) Surface Threshold Overrun Markings Lighting
04R 151 ft / 46 m 8,074 ft / 2,461 m 41.40° / 45.55° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 850 ft / 259 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSR TDZ REIL-OMNI
09L 151 ft / 46 m 7,484 ft / 2,281 m 89.99° / 94.14° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 397 ft / 121 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
09R 151 ft / 46 m 7,949 ft / 2,423 m 89.98° / 94.13° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 148 ft / 45 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSR TDZ REIL-OMNI
10C 200 ft / 61 m 10,789 ft / 3,289 m 89.85° / 94.00° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 397 ft / 121 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
10L 151 ft / 46 m 12,996 ft / 3,961 m 89.87° / 94.02° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 394 ft / 120 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
10R 151 ft / 46 m 7,484 ft / 2,281 m 89.85° / 94.00° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 400 ft / 122 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSF TDZ REIL-OMNI
22L 151 ft / 46 m 8,074 ft / 2,461 m 221.41° / 225.56° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 584 ft / 178 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSR TDZ REIL-OMNI
27L 151 ft / 46 m 7,949 ft / 2,423 m 270.00° / 274.15° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 197 ft / 60 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
27R 151 ft / 46 m 7,484 ft / 2,281 m 270.00° / 274.16° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 397 ft / 121 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
28C 200 ft / 61 m 10,789 ft / 3,289 m 269.88° / 274.03° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 381 ft / 116 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
28L 151 ft / 46 m 7,484 ft / 2,281 m 269.87° / 274.02° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 400 ft / 122 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD MALSF TDZ REIL-OMNI
28R 151 ft / 46 m 12,996 ft / 3,961 m 269.91° / 274.06° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 285 ft / 87 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI

LHBP

Details ICAO LHBP (BUD)
Name Budapest Ferenc Liszt Intl
Region Hungary
Timezone Europe/Budapest (UTC+1.0)
Stats Elevation 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
Location 47.436900° 19.255600°
Runways 2
Magnetic Variation 5.578° E

METAR

LHBP 100630Z 31017KT 9999 -RA FEW030 OVC070 04/M01 Q1011 NOSIG

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TAF

TAF TAF LHBP 100515Z 1006/1106 31018G28KT CAVOK TEMPO 1006/1009 4000 SNRA BKN012 OVC030 PROB40 TEMPO 1006/1009 -SN SCT012 BKN040 TEMPO 1010/1016 SCT040 BECMG 1014/1018 27007KT

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Destination Runways

ID Width Length Bearing (true/mag) Surface Threshold Overrun Markings Lighting
13L 148 ft / 45 m 12,175 ft / 3,711 m 132.46° / 126.89° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 0 ft / 0 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
13R 148 ft / 45 m 9,882 ft / 3,012 m 132.42° / 126.84° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 0 ft / 0 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
31L 148 ft / 45 m 9,882 ft / 3,012 m 312.44° / 306.86° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 0 ft / 0 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI
31R 148 ft / 45 m 12,175 ft / 3,711 m 312.49° / 306.91° CONCRETE 0 ft / 0 m 0 ft / 0 m PREC-APP CENTERLINE EDGE THRESHOLD ALSF-II TDZ REIL-OMNI

Approach Navaids

Runway Type Ident Frequency Range Bearing (true/mag) Slope Elevation
13L GS BPL 109.15 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 132.48° / 126.90 ° 3.00° 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13L OM OM - - 132.55° / 126.97 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13L MM MM - - 132.55° / 126.97 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13L DME BPL 111.70 MHz 27 nm / 50 km - - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13L LOC-ILS BPL 109.15 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 132.48° / 126.90 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13R MM MM - - 132.50° / 126.92 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13R DME FER 110.50 MHz 27 nm / 50 km - - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13R LOC-ILS FER 110.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 132.44° / 126.86 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13R GS FER 110.50 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 132.44° / 126.86 ° 3.00° 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
13R OM OM - - 132.50° / 126.92 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31L OM OM - - 312.50° / 306.92 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31L MM MM - - 312.50° / 306.92 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31L DME FHL 111.50 MHz 14 nm / 26 km - - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31L LOC-ILS FHL 111.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 312.44° / 306.86 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31L GS FHL 111.50 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 312.44° / 306.86 ° 3.00° 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31R LOC-ILS BPR 109.50 MHz 18 nm / 33 km 312.48° / 306.90 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31R GS BPR 109.50 MHz 10 nm / 19 km 312.48° / 306.90 ° 3.00° 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31R DME BPR 109.50 MHz 32 nm / 59 km - - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31R OM OM - - 312.55° / 306.97 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)
31R MM MM - - 312.55° / 306.97 ° - 495 ft / 151 m (AMSL)

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# generated
Route: KORD PMM J547 FNT Q824 HOCKE Q923 YVO J545 MT J551 YWK V39 YYR YR AR29 YMH PELTU RIKAL S NETKI 5600N01200W 5600N01100W MIMKU N562 MAC UN562 SAB L983 CUTEL UL619 VALBO L619 SUTEB UL619 BUMIL UM748 HDO L858 KOMUR L620 KOPIT M748 ODNEM A4 TUTPI LHBP
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